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	<title>Comments on: Duke News: I Don&#8217;t Hate Gays (And Neither Does God)</title>
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	<description>Ramblings, Rants, and Random Thoughts from Two Not-So-Straight Students at a Very-Straight Seminary &#38; Divinity School, Respectively</description>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
		<link>http://notsostraightfromseminary.com/2007/11/02/duke-news-i-dont-hate-gays-and-neither-does-god/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy crap that trailer from outtake was FUCKING AWESOME.  it made me cry.  and the joke at the end is hilarious.  i hope they can make that a full-on documentary....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crap that trailer from outtake was FUCKING AWESOME.  it made me cry.  and the joke at the end is hilarious.  i hope they can make that a full-on documentary&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLastDAys</title>
		<link>http://notsostraightfromseminary.com/2007/11/02/duke-news-i-dont-hate-gays-and-neither-does-god/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLastDAys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everyting that this article had to say.  It just made sense to me.   I am afraid that the family is headed for destruction and soon we will have no procreation and therefore no civilization.   We are becoming like animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everyting that this article had to say.  It just made sense to me.   I am afraid that the family is headed for destruction and soon we will have no procreation and therefore no civilization.   We are becoming like animals.</p>
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		<title>By: of light</title>
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		<dc:creator>of light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raise your hand if you&#039;re tired of hearing these same worn-out &quot;self-explanatory&quot; arguments that don&#039;t actually address ANYTHING.  

Just because something is declared abnormal doesn&#039;t make it so.

I&#039;m no philosopher, but I can at the very least operate above THAT argument and reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raise your hand if you&#8217;re tired of hearing these same worn-out &#8220;self-explanatory&#8221; arguments that don&#8217;t actually address ANYTHING.  </p>
<p>Just because something is declared abnormal doesn&#8217;t make it so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no philosopher, but I can at the very least operate above THAT argument and reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: JMM</title>
		<link>http://notsostraightfromseminary.com/2007/11/02/duke-news-i-dont-hate-gays-and-neither-does-god/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>JMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article makes me want to vomit and I only briefly skimmed it : P  I think we should find the author of this article and have a conversation with him.  I&#039;d like to pick apart his (weak) logic and give him some theological stuff to chew on....ahhh dook....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article makes me want to vomit and I only briefly skimmed it : P  I think we should find the author of this article and have a conversation with him.  I&#8217;d like to pick apart his (weak) logic and give him some theological stuff to chew on&#8230;.ahhh dook&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://notsostraightfromseminary.com/2007/11/02/duke-news-i-dont-hate-gays-and-neither-does-god/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh*  I can&#039;t tell you how familiar this pathetic excuse for an argument is, or how frustrating it is to see it in a forum where I can&#039;t shoot down its flaws - its mistaken interpretation of the foundation of laws, its claim that B leads to A therefore A leads to B, and its callous single-sided accounting that says any weakening whatsoever of the heterosexual inclination to marriage outweighs any measure of good having that institution would do for gays... ugh.  Trust me, it&#039;s worse when it&#039;s a judge reciting this nonsense, and his opinion has the force of law.  Arguing with people like this is what I do all the time, and when I&#039;m not fighting them, I&#039;m reading judges who do the exact same thing.  It&#039;s exhausting, and always a punch to the gut to see a young person who should know better parroting the same line.

Good thing is, though - I suspect, given the environment the writer describes, that he&#039;s losing.  That more and more, straight folks are coming to understand that, yes, loving and respecting yourself despite all that people like him, who call us abnormal and our families unnatural (wonder what he thinks of adoptive families... bet he loves them when he&#039;s arguing about abortion, but let&#039;s not introduce logical consistency to the discussion) - that when there are a million reasons to hide in the shadows and deny who we are, it is right to be proud of honesty and integrity, and yes, that God created us differently and beautifully.  There is something special about a love that nobody can claim is simply Nature&#039;s way of fooling us into reproducing, something beautiful in the sacrifices gay partners have made for each other throughout history, without any of the social pressures that bind straight couples together.  

We have much to be proud of for that - and whether you&#039;ve been out for years on the frontlines of activism, or are doing all you can to survive just knowing you may be gay in what is too often hostile territory, you have just as much right to that self-respect.  It is justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh*  I can&#8217;t tell you how familiar this pathetic excuse for an argument is, or how frustrating it is to see it in a forum where I can&#8217;t shoot down its flaws &#8211; its mistaken interpretation of the foundation of laws, its claim that B leads to A therefore A leads to B, and its callous single-sided accounting that says any weakening whatsoever of the heterosexual inclination to marriage outweighs any measure of good having that institution would do for gays&#8230; ugh.  Trust me, it&#8217;s worse when it&#8217;s a judge reciting this nonsense, and his opinion has the force of law.  Arguing with people like this is what I do all the time, and when I&#8217;m not fighting them, I&#8217;m reading judges who do the exact same thing.  It&#8217;s exhausting, and always a punch to the gut to see a young person who should know better parroting the same line.</p>
<p>Good thing is, though &#8211; I suspect, given the environment the writer describes, that he&#8217;s losing.  That more and more, straight folks are coming to understand that, yes, loving and respecting yourself despite all that people like him, who call us abnormal and our families unnatural (wonder what he thinks of adoptive families&#8230; bet he loves them when he&#8217;s arguing about abortion, but let&#8217;s not introduce logical consistency to the discussion) &#8211; that when there are a million reasons to hide in the shadows and deny who we are, it is right to be proud of honesty and integrity, and yes, that God created us differently and beautifully.  There is something special about a love that nobody can claim is simply Nature&#8217;s way of fooling us into reproducing, something beautiful in the sacrifices gay partners have made for each other throughout history, without any of the social pressures that bind straight couples together.  </p>
<p>We have much to be proud of for that &#8211; and whether you&#8217;ve been out for years on the frontlines of activism, or are doing all you can to survive just knowing you may be gay in what is too often hostile territory, you have just as much right to that self-respect.  It is justified.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Dimmesdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Dimmesdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, when he starts by comparing &quot;gay pride&quot; to &quot;white pride,&quot; you know he&#039;s not going anywhere good; he doesn&#039;t get it.  I&#039;d counter his fallacious reasoning, but i imagine most of us see the holes.  At least his Duke education is affording him solid grammatical structure and elevated diction.  It&#039;s a trick i&#039;ve tried before on many papers at 3a.  If my register is formal enough, maybe the prof won&#039;t smell the BS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, when he starts by comparing &#8220;gay pride&#8221; to &#8220;white pride,&#8221; you know he&#8217;s not going anywhere good; he doesn&#8217;t get it.  I&#8217;d counter his fallacious reasoning, but i imagine most of us see the holes.  At least his Duke education is affording him solid grammatical structure and elevated diction.  It&#8217;s a trick i&#8217;ve tried before on many papers at 3a.  If my register is formal enough, maybe the prof won&#8217;t smell the BS?</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.... well what do we have here:


Main Entry:
    pride 
Pronunciation:
    \ˈprīd\ 
Function:
    noun 
Etymology:
    Middle English, from Old English prȳde, from prūd proud — more at proud
Date:
    before 12th century

1: the quality or state of being proud: as a: inordinate self-esteem : conceit b: a reasonable or justifiable self-respect c: delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship 


Oh Webster... you always help to clear things up!

~c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh&#8230;. well what do we have here:</p>
<p>Main Entry:<br />
    pride<br />
Pronunciation:<br />
    \ˈprīd\<br />
Function:<br />
    noun<br />
Etymology:<br />
    Middle English, from Old English prȳde, from prūd proud — more at proud<br />
Date:<br />
    before 12th century</p>
<p>1: the quality or state of being proud: as a: inordinate self-esteem : conceit b: a reasonable or justifiable self-respect c: delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship </p>
<p>Oh Webster&#8230; you always help to clear things up!</p>
<p>~c</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Same-sex families = &quot;unnatural&quot; and &quot;abnormal.&quot;  But at least the author doesn&#039;t&#039; use inflammatory or biased language :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Same-sex families = &#8220;unnatural&#8221; and &#8220;abnormal.&#8221;  But at least the author doesn&#8217;t&#8217; use inflammatory or biased language <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out our trailer on Gay Marriage. Produced to educate &amp; defuse the controversy it has a way of opening closed minds &amp; creates an interesting spin on the situation: www.OUTTAKEonline.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out our trailer on Gay Marriage. Produced to educate &amp; defuse the controversy it has a way of opening closed minds &amp; creates an interesting spin on the situation: <a href="http://www.OUTTAKEonline.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.OUTTAKEonline.com</a></p>
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